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I just received the Bendigo Clubs Newsletter  The Good oil”and the editorial makes interesting reading which I have reproduced it below, notice any similarities? I have to agree with Pam & Rex Jones here as it seems to be a trend in our Association as well, the problem with this is it’s a slippery slide to being a social club only that talks bench racing about motorcycling, the rallies and rides are seriously neglected as in the end nobody will organise any rides because they are disappointed with the numbers that turn up. The shame is that soon the real riders in the club leave for obvious reasons and numbers decline. We have produced a 16 month calendar for all current financial members listing all of our major events, rides and meetings so you reckon we could get a number of people planning at least a year in advance, and you know what a large majority will attend other clubs events and not their own Association events why? In a fortnight we have the 2nd Tee-Pee Rally good rides & a camping week-end with all meals & rides catered for by our friends at the Bendigo Club for a small expense, it would be nice to have a healthy number of 20 or more turn up but I bet that wont happen! If you are attending please contact Peter Kime 0409 798641 and give him your details as it helps with the food and catering etc that’s needed

NOTICES & EDITORIAL

Recent discussion with Rex Jones over a cup of tea revealed an interesting trend in our club over the last couple of years. This is the apparent lack of interest in members participating in club runs. This seems to have coincided with the introduction of the new Permit Scheme and was a prediction at the time the scheme was being considered. Even after the revelation that there are “mutterings around the traps” that the Club never has any runs anymore only the usual few turn up at any organised event and yet our meetings are always very well attended. The most logical reason for the lack of enthusiasm for going on runs is of course that permit holders are no longer reliant on club events to be able to ride their bikes. This leads on to a statement by Rex that unless he gets more show of interest in what should be a very popular event, that is the TTT Rally, he would have to abandon it. His reasons are that in spite of the wasteful publishing of application forms in the newsletter only two members have entered the rally. Furthermore members do not consider the organisation that has to be done in catering for what might be a flop which costs your Club lots of money and waste of effort by the same volunteers again. So what’s it to be— sit on your bum and grumble or take part and have some simple fun?

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There has been quite a few demo Indian Scouts for sale at your local Indian dealer recently, they are priced from $1699-$1799 ride away, with stage 1 exhaust and the first chargeable service chucked in and full warranty and all have done under 1,200 klms so you get around $2,000 worth of goodies for nothing. Naturally the new 2016 Scouts have arrived so all 2015 stock is being cleared the new 2016 model is $800 dearer so you can save a fair bit off a demo. Some members find it odd that these are the only models depreciating as there old ones go up in price, well I suppose in the forties if you had a 1945 model and the 1946 came out with the new girder fork front end the earlier version would have dropped in price, so have the last K.M models that Polaris made before the new Thunderstroke engine versions, these magnificent machines were $38,000 + dearer than the current “fully loaded” Roadmaster, they seem to be selling for $25,000- $28,000 with negligible mileage, and the older Gilroy S&S Indians can be had for under $12,000 definitely the time to buy

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I often wonder about other pages on the website, do people read anything except Stop Press or look at the Events Calendar, recently I eliminated two title pages off the site and nobody said they were missed which makes one think what else is not needed. Do people look at say, Period Adverts, YouTube links, Members Area, or the Links Page for that matter & all have to be updated, the Victoria Section Area reviewing the Monthly Rides are probably good to inspire people to go on rides but again who reads them beside me or the poor bugger who writes them. Peter Kime one of the editors of last weekends ride agrees with me the reports are needed to show an active membership the ride reported on this month is rather unique as it was one of the first aimed at the post Springfield models being a reasonably long ride a highway speeds although Phillip White rode “Chips” to prove a Springfield model will “cut the mustard” and stay with the late models. In future we may end up with two monthly rides one for late models and another for Springfield versions that way we can cater for more of our members needs, what are your thoughts chaps?

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Two World Wars and lots of equipment is needed but after it’s all over who wants a Bomber, or a Spitfire come to think of it service motorcycles as they are only a temporary means of transport, civilian versions are soon being turned out by various factories, lots get scraped so do trucks, tanks, ships and subs some of the alloy was used to make Vincents as it was plentiful after the war and cheaper than steel, lots of Harley’s served a better more reliable purpose as a kitchen utensil such as a saucepan or frying pan, hopefully a better fate happened to Indian’s but I doubt it. I noticed recently a firm after the war recommissioned Sherman tanks into farm equipment or crude bulldozers, it was cheaper to buy and convert, a neighbour of mine bought a DC-3  and chopped its wings off with an axe and towed it behind his Mk5 Jaguar to Ivanhoe to wreck down in his front yard for cheap bolts, aluminium and other parts & over five years it was quite a hit with us kids and undoubtably at 25 quid, a bargain can you imagine this happening today well no you could”nt or even tow it for that matter, people no longer have large front or backyards and Metro-sexuals and Hipsters have trouble growing beards more or less wielding spanners.

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Just noticed a Triumph bobber advertised on Evil Bay it’s listed as a matching frame/engine bike, thats ridiculous as it has a late front end and a hard tail frame bolted on, what does that mean more or less on the value? Irrelevant I would think, I remember going through the Triumph works in 1979 and there were two assembly lines, one with engines the other with frames, the Brits never stamped the frame number on till the engine went in as purchase tax had to be paid on a complete machine. Anyway where to two lines met a huge Brummie ( that’s a Birmingham native) physically lifted the engine into a random frame! These days folklore has it that each engine was hand made for each bike and they were all hand lapped to fit, “bollocks” 75% of bikes made before the seventies Indians included have had the engine or frame changed, how do you think motorcycle wreckers survived, people had no qualms swapping a engine over if it was worn or blown-up and if it was a later version more the better. It wasn’t till the late seventies that owners and buyers became anal and that’s not for the better I hope one day people will realize the stupidity of this fad and people buy bikes on their merit.

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They were all once Associate or new Indian Owners that embraced our policy of  “you don’t have to have one to be one” Richard Onyon owned  Gilroy Chief , then a new Scout and recently bought the Fawn 1946 that Phil Nuskie is looking at his front guard, Phil’s got a Gilroy and a Scout as well and I bet now he’s saving for a Springfield. It makes me proud that members like our President Daryl Colt a Honda rider and Guy Allen our editor and a SR500 Yamaha owner among many makes have fallen in love with the marque and now have at least a couple of Indians in their stable. I find most of our new Indian owners and all of our non-Indian owning associate members are either thinking about or saving for a Springfield version, after 5 years since our Association started I now know the decision for associate membership and Indians of any era was a positive step.

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Laurie Keenan one of our most enthusiastic members has just got his C344 Chief on the road, Laurie has done his in Royal Australian Navy livery which is quite a change from the normal Army Khaki. We need a RAAF version next, anyway all the best Laurie and we hope to see it on the road soon

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The Indian Prince as Daryl Colt says about his bike pictured above” For people who can’t afford a Scout” Daryl is the bloke that started with a Prince oil stain then built a bike around it fabricating things like the seat cover and fuel tank, chaincases etc. So whats it like in the 21st Century, slow & more reliable than it was probably when it was new as they were aimed at women riders and the opposition was the Harley Peashooter, a far superior product they never achieved the numbers Indian wanted. I know of a rare O.H.V model here and it would have been more expensive to produce although undoubtably faster, Daryl’s is”nt faster but it gives many people much pleasure when its on the road and you cant get the smile off his face.

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Zorro’s are pleased to announce their appointment as Ikon Suspension dealer. Of particular note is the availability of a suspension package front and rear to fit the new Indian Scout. This upgrade gives a massive improvement over the standard equipment fitted in terms of performance and durability.  As a special offer both the Ikon front and rear suspension upgrades for the Indian Scout will be available as a package for $799.95 plus $24.95 shipped Australia wide. Until end of Nov 2015  Suggestedretail is $899.95 contact Mark at Zorro’s for further details 0433 106669 or www.zorros.net.au

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I have a library of many photos, some are modern Indians others are really old pictures that the machine or pictured participant are long gone I think both are well departed in this shot. What is interesting is that this may have been a treasured family photo of a near new machine, and now all details have disappeared, but never mind I still like it