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I have ridden sidecars now for over 43 years the first was a Vincent Rapide with a double adult sidecar  that I rode down the Motor Registration branch, a daunting trip as I side swiped a EJ Holden no damage to me or the Holden but a full set of Jock”s and a respectful attitude to all sidecars and riders after that. Fast forward a few years and I raced another Vincent outfit quite successfully for 5-6 years so obviously confidence had progressed and I was the Velorex sidecar importer in my buisness and I sold around 80 most I had to fit up to all makes and models some were well suited to a chair others were dubious. So now I still ride outfits I have two one is a a C344 Indian that was brought into Australia with 700 others to stop the “Yellow Siege” as General McArthur said in WW11 meanwhile my Chief started off in Queensland but I bought it in South Australia 60 years later. It is a handful to ride, harsh and badly braked which Im fixing ( news of this soon) I have made it 80 cu and fitted a set of Bonneville cams and followers with a 4 speed overdrive box it sits comfortably on highway speeds, and I have ridden it to Sydney and back in the past, and it’s great for upper body strength. Well by now you see I like outfits which brings me to the Scout above with a special sidecar for 101 model, this would not be fast and when a sidecar is fitted you get 1/3 worse fuel consumption which on a Indian is dramatic as they are intensely thirsty standard is a understatement, imagine if there was a sidecar option on the new Scout but I doubt it,  believe me someone will put one on eventually and man I want to ride it.

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This advert is being used by Indian in USA promising $1000 off  a new Indian (except Scout) good advertising promotion except extravagant  I would have offered less more like scrap steel price $30 a ton so $16 seems generous. Onto more serious discussions the promised Aussie Scouts that were on the ship for delivery in December then mysteriously disappeared, rumour is the same spec bikes (ABS braked version) are sold in Europe and Aussie, guess who are selling their shipments received in December the bloody Poms, I bet you $10 to a WLA that’s where our shipments gone. Totally bad marketing here, all owners in USA are complaining about -5 degree temperatures the same in Europe so in theory if the Aussies and Kiwi’s had them now lots of press and great feedback, never mind we will get ours in winter as well so nill press on publicity. By the time the bikes hit our summer months for decent riding the new model will be out by over 2 months not great marketing Indian

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Its always sad to sad to see a crashed motorcycle, more so if it’s a Indian this poor Scout was once someone’s treasure, and it would have probably scrapped in this era as they were worth little up till 15 years ago.

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I think think the dealers and the customers are going to be disappointed with the official delivery date

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Its been a “heady” year for Indian and the IIRA, at the beginning new models were being bought first time in years, January we were anticipating the Midnight Express and also the Great Race 2014, February brought us the first Monthly Run of the year and the Lakes  & Craters Rally, March was the Bikes by the Bay & Zorro’s Show & Shine, April was getting ready for the All British Rally, May was The Lake Goldsmith Rally but unfortunately cancelled due to extreme weather, June  great the first Chief Rain in the Face Rally was a success, July was an eventful Monthly ride to Red Plate Cafe in Yea, August was another good day to Moto-Bean Cafe in Malmsbury, Sept was a hit with the Annual Crazy Horse Rally, October down the coast on the Peninsula Ride and the Moto Classica Exhibition, November gave us the first Teepee Run to Bendigo and the Moto Exhibition at the show grounds and the launch of the 2015 Scout, finally December was the Christmas Party at Zorro’s (thanks Mark and everyone that helped). A fairly full calender of Events this year will have the same and more, what a great Association to be in.

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The Milwaukee Tractor company used to be once innovating  and had balls also they weren’t dictated to by their customers as they are now the two designs above prove this, what’s scary is that Sportster it’s got Scout pretensions, if they would have developed that or the Porsche designed MV lookalike they wouldn’t have painted themselves into a corner as they are now. AMF were the best thing that happened to H-D they had a full range of models from 50cc up and the 250/350 Italian singles reinforce that thinking by excellent design . Since the buy back in 1978 a redesigned re-hashed V-Twin and Buell, selling MV for a $1 and the V-Rod have given them a good profit margin, but certainly have made it even more difficult to diverse into different versions

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Yesterday everyone that had placed a deposit on the 2015 Scout were told “With luck expect your bike in Winter or April-May”,previously these people were told after the official launch at the Melbourne Moto-Expo last month the Scout  would start “trickling” out in December. In August I booked a trip to Tasmania and was told I would not get some of the accessories  that I wanted till early 2015 fair enough, but now the trip on the bike is cancelled. Indian mentioned a refund was available if I wanted it and they would cancel my bike, if Indian launches the 2016 range in August at Sturgis  it might pay to hang off for the “glitches” to be sorted plus your new machine will only be new for 3 months. Indian have mentioned the new Scout 2015 is a platform for a full range of  versions, I’d like wire wheels and a bigger fuel tank and footboards, potentially 2016 models may have this and if there a couple of grand dearer who cares? The last thing Indian needs is mass cancellations of 2015 versions but you know what a bit of up-front honesty would have helped everyone and had much happier customers these are mine and quite number of thoughts given to me by deposit owning Scout owners in the last 24 hours

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Post war Indians are fairly reliable but when you go on a ride some tools are handy I found that the little cupboard (toolbox on the side)is neither to big or small. So what do you carry in there  personally  I carry a shifta, tyre levers, screw drivers, pliers, some harness wire and twitching wire, a small role of insulation tape ,a spare float, points, rotor button ,condenser , and a Indian head tightening socket, and the wheel nut extension bar, a couple of plugs as well , and a 1/2 x  9/16 ring spanner some fuses. If I’m on a rally a spare tube and a miniature tyre compressor but not in the “cupboard” a litre of oil and a small container of petrol in the saddle bags, this doesn’t leave much room  for waterproofs, and spare gloves it’s  always  a problem finding enough room  for your toiletries and underwear, but now the diagram above should save all the problems the cupboard will be bare! A number of years ago I was in the Velocette Club a a member was riding a 1938 MSS  which has a large toolbox fitted standard, anyway this chap “ground to a Halt” the problem being the magneto points had closed, I stopped to help and asked him for pliers etc from his expansive toolbox, he remarked that he never carried any with him and his wife used the area for lunch sandwiches, well at least he never starved to death.

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Rose tinted glasses, everything was much better back then, well at our last Gypsy Tour earlier this year we never had a Bathing Beauty Pageant seeing it was all blokes I”m happy about that, but it is food for thought maybe at our next one in 2016. The other picture of the model in practical riding gear of the 50’s is more risqué most ( should I say some) modern women wouldn’t be caught dead in that costume or on an old Indian, maybe a new Indian and completely naked but that’s all, so were things better back then? I lived from 1952 so I will comment from that time on Polio or T.B injections BEX & Vincent’s headache powders Dr Mackenzie Mentoid tablets for fat people, cigarettes everyone smoked even the cat, corrugated toilet paper, no air-con, Briquette heaters, sunburn rubbed with olive oil, valve radios and TVs, corner phone boxes, no seat belts or collapsible steering columns, the Vietnam War and National Service conscription, these are delightful things that were around. Cars were 6 cylinder and “three on the tree” (column shift) and no synchro on first, rusting from the day they left the factory and vacuum wipers, or worst still Pommie 4 cylinders with bad electrics and always boiling, motorcycles were equally dubious, kickstart, Lucas electrics, felt oil seals and tin chaincases, average brakes to make it better. Policeman were shocking & unforgiving and if you were a L or P plater even worse, my mate had his Learner Permit torn up like confetti and sprinkled on the ground and told to walk home, pushbike riders were fined as another friend who rode at 65 klm over a amphometer down a hill, he was flagged down had his tyre pump removed and his valves and told to walk to work. GST at 10% is tame next to 22% sales tax we had then and I wont mention the pill or anything else such as death sentences or 80% of people have a firearm in their house in this era, heart bypass surgery was not great earlier on with most not surviving or if they did only a few years. So some things were good then as well as now things have improved for the better overall, as have our favorite brand Indian I’m glad to have ordered a Scout and ride older Chiefs I know there limitations unfortunately many people don’t “Old will never be new again”

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John Munro

“The Indian Scout is a good value, has great sex appeal and, most importantly, it’s easy to ride.”

Read more: http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/driven/1412-2015-indian-scout-review/#ixzz3M2WC67Lg

I have read quite a number of these reviews but this one is about the best, Burts lad John pictured above obviously enjoys this one