You read all the history books on Indian in 1949 and it was the equivalent of the Dark Ages, speculation and rumours, but beside the supposed six Chiefs with foot change and hand clutch, oh also a Torque Evener most Indian buffs will tell you the Springfield factory was in hibernation fortunately no, Indian Sales was “flat-out” with Scout’s & Arrows and C-Z who latter in their life built world-beating M-X’s, the Milwaukee Tractor company were selling Hummer’s (read BSA Bantam clone) and this little C-Z would have blown the socks off them in speed and reliability. The Vincent factory parallels Indian at this time they were selling NSU motorcycles and the cycle attachment Vincent FireFly and also hoping Indian were about to order a stack on Vindians and Indian-Vincents which would save them from the receiver worse luck it was the beginning of the end for both firms Indian stopping full production in 1953. and Vincent December 1955
It always amazes me to see a Springfield Indian owner riding a outfit without the optional (read necessary) steering damper still available from some suppliers. Some fit the more expensive Crocker version but I find the standard version excellent on my C344 it seems only logical to have it on a solo as well as all post war girder and tele fork versions had a damper I can say it stops all fork wobble on a outfit and makes it safer to ride
So there are plenty of Red Scouts well in America at least, I believe the one that was going to be delivered to the owner in ACT (Canberra) fall off the back of the truck it was being delivered to on its way to Sydney. Also a picture of a gullible fool (your webmaster) on the bike he was promised in late October and never ever received, still I digress and that’s all behind me now maybe next year. Other Scouts in history are more interesting the Clymer Scout made in the 70″s, well actually only one got me & why wasnt it a Chief and man that’s ugly, hard to imagine Mrs Clymer riding it after her $250 version from the thirties the “Universal Motorcycle with Universal appeal” powerful enough for a motor cop and light enough for a girl to ride, it is claimed well somethings have changed cops don’t ride Indians and although girls could still ride a Scout they will find it difficult to buy one!
This is what the American arm of Polaris Indian does, the V.P contacts the owners personally to apologize for delays and explains whats happening to your ordered machine, this might just work here instead of what we are getting in Aussie, my new hero pictured below Steve Menneto
Indian Motorcycles.
Dear Scott ,
We are writing today to update you on the status of your Indian Scout. Before we do that, we want to say again, we appreciate your patience during our production delays.
As you know, manufacturing and delivering the highest quality 2015 Indian Scout is our primary focus. Production delays were clearly not in our plan when we launched this great bike, however, providing the highest quality was in our plans from day one. I truly apologize to you, our valued Scout owner for your experience, but I’m confident that you’ll find the Scout worth the wait.
As a team, we’ve corrected our paint system issue and have increased our capacity levels in our Spirit Lake, IA facility. In addition, we resolved the minor cosmetic issue that had previously hindered us from our ability to ship you product as quickly as anticipated. We are confident that every bike we ship meets our rigorous standards and that your Indian Scout will deliver on our promise of quality and exceed your expectations.
We know that not all of these bikes will ship to dealerships by the end of March, but please know that your Indian Scout is on its way. We are as excited as you are for you to get out and ride.
We will continue to send updates to your dealer regarding the delivery details of every order as soon as they are available. If you have a question that your dealer is unable to answer or is not addressed in this communication, please call Indian Motorcycle at 877-204-3697.
Sincerely,
Steve Menneto
Vice President, Motorcycles
So a great firm like Polaris Indian (and it is great) has loyal staff, good product and enthusiastic customers what more could we ask for, PLENTY the truth! Many customers have pinned their hearts to their sleeve ordered product and been given the “run around” since day one the Chief range was an example last year no accessories failed delivery dates etc, so you learn by your mistakes or do you? Well no the next model is the Scout again the loyal customers place orders before its available and pay deposits then promised delivery dates are broken not by weeks but by months, then some bikes are delivered not on sequential deposit status but randomly so people ordering August last year get replaced by people ordered in February! Personally mine was deposit paid in August 2014 for delivery in October then December postponed then till May, last week I was rang by Indian to be told a black Scout could be available this week, I said I ordered Red which I was told “Maybe May” well ok last night pictures appear on Facebook of 9 Scouts for delivery this week and guess what, there”s a Red one, (since being delivered to Canberra) so seeing I was the second person that ordered a Scout and the first deposit owner picks her machine up this week (not the first delivered by the way) then you may assume this red machine pictured would be mine well NO. So you know what Indian, cancel my order now and please submit my monies back into my account, the only way this firm is going to get loyalty is to give it!
I have a 344 Chief and I”ve never thought of it as life saver, sometimes it has done the opposite as a life ender with seriously inadequate brakes, average lighting and antiquated suspension but I digress as that is my 2015 view of a 1944 machine and technology. To judge anybody or machines on todays standards is difficult for example Fangio, Hailwood, Surtees, Bradman Ned Kelly of course vehicles are the same E type Jaguar, 1956 Chevy’s, 1966 Ford Mustang & motorcycles 1944 Chief,Indian Four”s, Harley Knucklehead, Vincent Black Shadow etc what you need to do is put yourself in the particular era then you can see how great or important the machine or person was, its hard to do if you have a 70 yo plus machine because many owners were not even born. Some legends and horrors are forgotten when I was a lad of eighteen summers I remember everyone that knew anything about Indians said ” Don’t buy a 741 Scout they are a s**t heap and slow and run hot and unless given one for under $25 don’t even contemplate it” so whats happened here to make 741″s desirable have they got faster, more reliable or better running, well no, but the old timers are all dead now and the legends and stories have altered and grown, people now don’t think of a Scout as a poor mans Chief anymore they buy them and like them and they are accepted amongst all Indian owners as a good bike and seem to change hands for $16,000 to $20,000 and more which proves “Time waits for no man or machine”
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