Recently I wrote a article about early Indians and the problems that you had in 1903, which brings me onto a subject that all motorcyclists have had over the years since they were first manufactured a guarantee or now days warranties.So what are some complaints in those days we would be unlikely to find a claim going to Polaris-Indian today, of course mechanical engine failures have always been a issue through the era’s however these days are not at all common. Now in 1901 wood borers on your wooden wheel rims and handlebar grips, of course Ferrous Oxide (rust), lead fatigue, on soldered joints on fuel tanks and oil tanks,weevils in the horse hair of the padding under your leather seat cover,magneto failure, cracked frame, wheel bearing failures, optional gas lighting rubber hose and accumulator deterioration from carbide corrosion, mechanical Klaxon horn wear, manual oil pump plunger leather washer damage, return oil pump breakdown (total loss),rear chain failures, air filters were not any problem as they never existed, as were riders handbooks or workshop manuals as either the local blacksmith or bicycle mechanic fixed your machine.We mentioned in the previous article finding fuel and oil of any quality in a rural area could the difficult or non-existent, plus the roads were made for horses which is probably why you sold it to by a motocycle from Indian, therefore long distant touring as it is now known would be the next town. Polaris has never had it so good, Indian was suffering flywheel problems into the thirties with oil pump problems as well and in 1932 cast alloy fuel tanks were only a one season model we all know why, vibrations! I wonder what problems a 2014 version will have I bet none of the above.

What can you say about this?
Riding a Indian on the wall of Death takes large testicles, but on the other hand what does driving a car with a Lion in the sidecar take, no testicles if your a woman. Then to make it even more difficult when you stop,there is the guy still circling above till the Lion and you get out.Today in our “nanny state” full of Civil libertarians, RSPCA, EPA protection, Police, Licensing authorities, is would not be a problem because it would not happen. Notice the painted white line on the top edge of the perimeter this was for the participants to regulate where they were in the Wall otherwise any higher and you went out of the drum usually killing a number of spectators if not yourself, one of the many reasons these were closed down and only a handful survive today. What I would not give to see a spectacle like this today
Now that we have your attention Gentleman!
What’s that you say the number one website & blog in the world on all things Indian overcome with all those new models, not enough heritage bikes on this site anymore, Hmmm, well it seems like that since the launch but as we deal in all Indians this is changing from today. You will notice a new page in the top of the “header board” Polaris-Indian News this in future will have have all the info on the newer models (1999-2014), where relevant some of this might be used on Stop Press, otherwise all heritage stuff will be on your favourite page seems fair to me as I like all Indians and that’s what the IIRA are catering for. This site relies on news so if you have any email, fax or even write to Guy Allan or me Phil Pilgrim (Contacts Area)we are heading toward 300,000 hits so the reason for this is news or current info, help where you can
Always seems to me a good point campaigning about top speed and horsepower figures, Mike Hailwood MBE winner of all those Isle of Man TT’s in the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s and 15 world championships quoted you only needed 75 horsepower to achieve victory! These days manufacturer’s quote torque figures which are irrelevant unless you have something to compare them to, eg: is Indians figure of 119 ft lbs of torque seems impressive but how much is that compared to say a Hybusa or Dodge Viper. Undoubtedly it is miles ahead of my Vindian, and for that matter my 2002 Gilroy, but what about a old fashioned quarter mile figure this gets things into prospective along with fuel consumption figures which are important on a touring bike, weight is a necessary factor these figures are generally always on the spec sheet 835 lbs wet weight with 4.5 gallons of fuel in the new Indian’s case. Capacity figure on the new model at 1811cc is huge so is the “stroker” engine at Bore of 3.96 inch and stroke of a massive 4.449 inch, still in all a top speed figure although generally never quoted or obtained by more mortals like myself certainly help in ascertaining a purchase. In some areas road tests from a nearby dealer are not possible as literally the closest dealer is thousands of miles away.

Indian & the mythical Harley-Ferguson
The mythical Bunyip, Big Foot, Abominable Snowman, and even the even rarer Harley-Ferguson, here we have a exclusive photo of a Indian Chief and a Harley-Ferguson Harvest Glide model together found from the late forties with its owner, previously only artists impressions of it are known to exist and have appeared on this website. One of the many interesting things on our Facebook page
Unfortunately not those types of bikes “Sweat Wheels” or bicycles in Amsterdam, they have bike paths for the 900,000 bikes here and now scooters use them as well. If you step off the footpath they do a” Horner” on you as our latest Clubman Chris Horner knows all about after being hit by a cyclist over 3 years ago, and to add insult to injury, he was “hit & run” so the bugger did not even leave his details. I gave up cycling the day I got a motorcycle licence at 17 years and 9 months and do you know what,I have never ever missed it, you never see a cyclist smiling they always have a look on their face as if they have just inserted a suppository.
Thought this shot would break the monotony, I recognise Ian Rhook’s Blackhawk forked 344 on the end, and this was probably over 2 years ago at the Sandhurst Rally I would say. This year at the Great Race 2013 I asked organisers Dave Reedy(Harley City) and Peter Arundle about a next generation version that is Indian vs Harley except unlike the current version that stops at 1953 Indian’s and 1958 H-D’s it could start at these dates and finish at 2013 plus, both gentlemen were flabbergasted, not that they were against it but they did not want to organise it, can’t blame them as the original takes a ton of time. This has got me thinking lately with the new Indian and basically there is only a gap between 1973-99 but there is a ton of Indians between 1953-73 then over 300 Gilroy and Kings Mountain versions been imported into Aussie that’s about 34 years of bike production all up, potentially you could limit the Harley’s on the number of Indians entered. The Triumph Club in Australia( RAT) run a huge rally once a year surely the HOG owners and the new 111 Indian Club could do the same, this needs our friends at Victory-Indian to think about, how about it chaps?

2013 Clubman of the Year
Chris Horner is our new Clubman of the Year, this is the only award we give out so it is as special as the people that receive it. Chris has done more than most for the Association, he is a personal friend and I expect to most in our Association, he never hesitates with his time or generosity with any thing to help others and has often sacrificed a rally to give others his own Indian for their enjoyment, well done Chris
Indian Enfield, 111 Indian, in less than 6 days we will know what the factory will turn out, it will not be anything like this artists concept above, notice the belt drive has been “trashed” already and a chain fitted.
We have all seen the Vindian photos, the ones that were made in UK by the Vincent works in Stevenage, the story about how the machine was dismantled and sent back to the USA has been extensively retold in Indian History in our website. But a new twist what happened to this machine, well it exists in America in the DuPont museum after Indian Sales fitted another powerplant this wasn’t the end of the story Indian Sales built a second version, much different to the Stevenage variant the machine still exists in USA, note the 1949 Scout oil tank also the Vincent type gear change also the standard generator not the remote Indian Autolite generator, also the Vincent front wheel, this machine is more Vincent than the one that Vincent made, still even after all this it never happened as it like the others were still born
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